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    - Original Message ----- From: RadicalPress
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    Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 5:42 PM
    Subject: STEPHEN HARPER: CANADIAN PRIME MINISTER & CSIS OPERATIVE by Arthur Topham January 18, 2011
    http://www.radicalpress.com/?p=1292

    STEPHEN HARPER: CANADIAN PRIME MINISTER & CSIS OPERATIVE
    by Arthur Topham January 18, 2011



    Editor’s Note:
    Following in the wake of recent revelations by Free Trade Whistleblower Shelley Ann Clark of her ongoing attacks by Ottawa bureaucrats and the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal comes additional and shocking news of Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s direct connection and collusion with
    the Canadian Security Intelligence Service better known by its acronym “CSIS.”

    In an email sent to RadicalPress.com and other news media outlets Mr. Gareth Llewellyn, a former Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA) Intelligence Analyst in the Intelligence directorate, shares his insights into ‘behind the scenes’ political scenarios that the vast proportion of Canadian citizens are currently unaware of.
    Along with the malicious and highly suspect machinations of Canada’s spy network comes Llewellyn’s expose on Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s past associations with CSIS as well as Llewellyn’s own personal connections and recollections of Harper and other key players in the current Conservative government now running our country.

    The information contained in Gareth Llewellyn’s email should be a strong wake up call to each and every Canadian concerned about the direction that this nation is taking in terms of domestic and foreign policy.

    It should also be a warning to Canadians about the subversive and dangerous role being played by CSIS and the Prime Minister in terms our country’s global position and standing amongst other democratic countries.

    I would urge each and every person reading the information contained in the post below to do their utmost to spread this material around the net to the fullest possible degree.
    The collusion here between our Prime Minister and our secretive “intelligence” agency is of crucial importance and needs to be exposed to as many Canadians as possible.

    *Please note* Due to the length of this post I would ask readers to go directly to the complete story at the following url: http://www.radicalpress.com/?p=1292 I would also suggest downloading it for future reference.

    Shine your Light for Love, Peace & Justice for All,
    Arthur Topham Publisher/Editor The Radical Press
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    STEPHEN HARPER: CANADIAN PRIME MINISTER & CSIS OPERATIVE
    by Arthur Topham
    January 18, 2011
    From: llewellyn.gareth@yahoo.com
    Subject: Fw: CSIS involvement in politics
    Date: January 17, 2011 11:38:15 AM PST (CA)
    To: radical@radicalpress.com
    to make your day


    Forwarded Message ―-
    From: Gareth Llewellyn
    Sent: Mon, January 17, 2011 4:30:37 AM
    Subject: CSIS involvement in politics

    January 2011
    Dear Senator:

    Would it affect your vote if you learned that the Rt. Hon. Stephen Harper was a CSIS operative in the late 1980s and early 1990s?

    This interesting-but-not-scandalous information (as once described by Jeff Sallot, a noted journalist and now teaching media at Carleton University) has been deemed by the Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS) as an item of ‘national security,’ and I, in turn, was deemed as “prejudicial to the safety and interests of the [Canadian] state” under the Security of Information Act (SOIA).

    My career was ruined as a result.
    So, congratulations… you are now privy to a national-security secret.
    If, after a moment of contemplation, you find something fishy about this ‘secret,’ as if Canada’s security wouldn’t change one iota if it were broadcast around the world, you are privy to what this package is really about:
    the lack of judgment by CSIS, their dirty tricks, harassment and above all, their denial of basic justice to innocent Canadians.


    The Liberal Party of Canada is aware of this information, but according to a letter from Michael Ignatieff’s office (copied to the Evidence directory), the Liberals are not interested in this issue.

    The reasons for the Liberal’s lack of interest may include the fact that CSIS may have also protected a Liberal Prime Minister from another ‘national security secret’ i.e., a brief affair with a Peterborough woman in or around 2005 by harassing her to an extreme degree.

    Read the article about her ordeal at the hands of CSIS in the Evidence directory (#23a and b).
    This package is a book proposal seeking a publisher. Four chapters and an introduction tentatively entitled Life Under CSIS Rule are included, as well as a book synopsis and letter to a prospective literary agent.
    A series of magazine articles are also feasible, as is internet publication.

    The Gangstalker Directory contains “About Gangstalkers” to explain the role of ‘gangstalkers’ simply, a network of louts recruited to harass a whistleblower including some photos of them in action. The phenomenon of gangstalking has been developed very well at the website, gangstalkingworld.com, to which I refer the reader.

    In my case, CSIS has rented apartments in my neighbourhood to house them, so I enclose some photos of those houses as well.


    My resume and a photograph of my wife and I are included to identify us, as well as a Contact sheet to warn of the difficulties of communication when you are under CSIS investigation. My proposed book isn’t as important as the country.

    If you don’t want my experiences in Life Under CSIS Rule to be a regular occurrence in Canada, all under the excuse of ‘national security,’ please pass my story along. Please accept my legal permission to do so.
    Sincerely,Gareth Llewellyn____________
    Synopsis of Proposed BookWorking Title: “Life Under CSIS Rule”
    Summary:
    In January 2007, I was “gang-stalked” by CSIS.

    According to the leaked diplomatic cables by Wikileaks, this activity was called “vigorous harassment” by the former Director of CSIS, Jim Judd, a process that involves dozens of people, vehicles and radios.

    At the time, I didn’t know why it was happening, and throughout 2007, despite my efforts with my superiors at the Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA) and the fact I was an intelligence analyst cleared to Top Secret Special Access, one of the highest in government, I couldn’t get answers.

    It wasn’t until February 2008 that I learned that CSIS thought I was an American spy. I had done nothing to justify this. I complained to the Security Intelligence Review Committee (SIRC), and in so doing I revealed that the Rt. Hon. Stephen Harper, our Prime Minister, was used by CSIS as an operative against me previously in 1988, at a time when CSIS thought I was a neo-Nazi and a South African agent.

    After learning that I knew about Harper (it shouldn’t have been much of a surprise), CSIS deemed me a security risk “prejudicial to the safety and interests of Canada” under the Security of Information Act (SOIA).

    My career was finished. CSIS mounted a campaign to force me out of my job and brand me as delusional in order to protect Harper.
    The SOIA has empowered CSIS to deprive the innocent of a solicitor-client privilege and patient-doctor relationship, as well as other mechanisms of justice.


    This book is about errors of judgment by CSIS so massive that they involve two Prime Ministers and a former Leader of the Opposition. During the past 22 years, CSIS suspected me of being a neo-Nazi, a South Africa agent, an American spy and now a enemy of the state.
    They were wrong on all counts. When CSIS thought I was a neo-Nazi, they fomented an investigation into me by Internal Affairs in Revenue, from which I was cleared. CSIS thought I was funneling money from the South African embassy to Preston Manning’s campaign against Joe Clark.

    Here, Preston Manning was investigated. This story is told as a first/second-person narrative in chronological time with flashbacks recounting the backstory.
    The story doesn’t end there.

    Another victim is a Peterborough woman operating under the alias ‘Anne,’ who had an alleged affair with a Prime Minister in 2005, probably the Rt. Hon. Paul Martin.

    Two newspaper articles have been written about her, but the mainline media hasn’t realized what has happened. CSIS abuses normal Canadians under a program entitled “diffuse and disrupt” a program, in theory, that is meant to halt a terrorist attack against Canada, and formed,
    in the words of a former Deputy Director of Operations at CSIS, “because we had all this information and nothing to do with it.

    ” In practice, CSIS doesn’t enjoy the competence to differentiate between the innocent and the guilty.
    A brief introduction and proposed chapters 1- 4 are included. Substantial documentary evidence proving CSIS actions to some extent are provided.

    Photographs of gangstalkers, including the homes they use as a home base in my neighbourhood, are presented here as a stand-alone section for the middle of the book. All the names, dates and places are authentic. Some names may need to be changed for liability purposes, but not all.

    The central question in this proposed book is, how could a brief affair by one Prime Minister and the knowledge that another Prime Minister worked for CSIS many years ago become a ‘national security threat’ requiring extreme extra-judicial remedies?


    Chapters 1- 4
    Provided (approx. 25,000 words). They present my early exposure to ‘gangstalking’ and my work life under CSIS investigation between January 2007 and September 2008.

    Backstory elements include my past relationship with Stephen Harper and the incidents that lead to the investigation of Preston Manning’s federal campaign in Yellowhead in 1988. Also included is their “disrupt activities” against me as an alleged American spy.

    Illegal activities by my employer, CBSA, and CSIS are presented, and how my solicitor-client and patient-doctor relationship were abrogated. It includes how CSIS tried to brand me as ‘delusional’ in order to protect the Prime Minister.

    It ends with my discovery of the plight of ‘Anne,’ a Peterborough woman who had an affair with a PM and CSIS’s efforts to try to kill me in a traffic accident.


    Chapters 5-6

    Unwritten
    . These two chapters are reserved for “Anne’s Story,” a woman from Peterborough now in her early thirties who had a brief liaison with a Prime Minister, probably the Rt. Hon. Paul Martin.

    Evidence obtained from the national media indicates that the PM may have had marital problems with his wife, Sheila, at that time (or was caused by?). Information to be provided by Erin, ‘Anne’s real first name.
    Middle section of photographic inserts:Provided in the “Gangstalkers” and the “Evidence” directories. This includes a proposed section called About Gangstalkers…, a presentation of pictures I have taken along with captions, and includes the “safehouses” used by CSIS to monitor me and to house the gangstalkers.

    It may also include assorted letters provided in ‘Evidence’ from CSIS alleging I was a ‘subversive’ at the time I was cleared to TSSA, indicating that this status was attributed because I knew the PM was a former CSIS operative, as well as redacted documents obtained through
    the Privacy Act Toronto Star reporter; photograph showing the CSIS officer impersonating Lois Tuffin, a Peterborough This Week editor; a letter from my employer, CBSA, threatening my job after posting a early draft of the PM’s early activity on behalf of CSIS on the internet;
    a copy of the Security of Information Act; proposed pictures of CSIS officers and managers; etc. Approximate length: 40 pages.
    indicating I was suspected of being an American spy; photographs and documents showing a CSIS officer impersonating Michelle Shephard, a

    Suggested Chapter 7
    Unwritten. A proposed chapter to be written by a lawyer conversant with the origins and workings of the Security of Information Act, with a focus on the implications on the lives of innocent Canadians by CSIS actions, and a explanation of why the power under SOIA does not extend below PM level.
    Remuneration by the publisher could be sent directory to the lawyer.

    Chapter 8
    Unwritten
    . This chapter will show how CSIS gangstalking and incompetent investigating has damaged the lives of innocent Muslim Canadians, merging information presented here with media accounts and interviews with the subjects.

    Focus on one or two cases of Muslim Canadians is proposed, and specifically the “extra-legal” behaviour by CSIS.
    This chapter might flow into a discussion on the origins of gangstalking and the ‘diffuse and disrupt’ policy in CSIS. Some discussion of gangstalking efforts in the U.S. and in the U.K., and discussion of other books on gangstalking, etc. Research will be required.


    Chapter 9

    Unwritten
    . This chapter (or two) will continue my story relating from September 2008 to the winter of 2010-11. It will include my failure to obtain assistance by Ottawa Police; my complaint to
    the Office of the Independent Police Review Director; failure to obtain a lawyer through CSIS interference; efforts to contact the media; efforts to broker a deal with the government; frequent CSIS attempts to impersonate others; CSIS suborning my extended family and sister; CSIS in the legal field, media, etc.
    Epilogue
    Unwritten. The character of this concluding chapter depends on how the theme has been understood by the reader. It could present this story as a “danger signal” to conclude with prescriptive remedies; i.e., ideas for reform, merging human rights with national security; reform of SIRC; reform for the chain of command within the Canadian state as approached by the SOIA, particularly in situations of national emergency; ideas to define ‘national security.’
    Alternatively, the theme could be understood as illustrative of our descent into Canadian fascism, in which corroborative evidence could be presented to show how liberal Canada has died.
    Either way, discussions and research would be required.
    Anticipated length: 200 pages
    _
    Life Under CSIS Rule

    Chapter I
    January 2007
    The nightmare began when I sat in Starbucks in the Ottawa Marriott Hotel.(Due to the length of this post in email format please see the rest of the story at http://www.radicalpress.com/?p=1292 Thank you. Editor)
    _____________________
    Arthur Topham is the former editor and publisher of The Radical, a monthly alternative tabloid that was on the stands from June, 1998 until June, 2002. He is now the Publisher and Editor of RadicalPress.com and lives in central British Columbia, Canada. Like all alternative Internet keepers not on the Zionist payroll he relies upon the good will and generosity of those in cyberspace for financial assistance to help him with his work. Any donations therefore would be most welcome. Please see the following url on the Home Page (upper right hand corner) http://www.radicalpress.com/?page_id=657 regarding donations. Also there is a “DONATE” button there for Paypal or here at https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/websc...ton_id=4466120 . Feel free to use any of them if you can help out. Thanks.
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    --- On Wed, 1/19/11, ATT Brannum wrote:From: ATT Brannum
    Subject:
    Remember, YOU are the prosecutor.
    To: Undisclosed-Recipient@yahoo.com
    Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2011, 10:28 AM

    For those interested in a Habeas Corpus. See attachments. 9 files.
    Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 3:42 PM
    Subject: Remember, YOU are the prosecutor.
    Doing a Habeas the common law way you need four documents. These are fairly old docs and may need some wording updated.
    If you wish to try this fill out the four documents with all the kidnapped prisoners info (Names, Dates, etc.) and send back to me and I will verify them for you.


    A-Writ of Habeas.
    B-Order for allowance.
    C-Affidavit of Support.
    D-Mandamus Order for Sheriff.
    Before going to a Court house to help a friend in jail you need a Power of Attorney In Fact as back up.
    Witnessed by two living people or a republic notary not a De Facto Notary,



    1-Walk up to what ever judge you want to order the body brought to you (preferably at 8:00 AM if possible) and say "I have a habeas Corpus for you and I am accepting your Oath of Office without the UNITED STATES. I will wait for one hour for you to have the Sheriff bring the body or if you wish to sign the order now for the Sheriff I will serve it on him.

    2-The ball is in the Judge's hands. If he/she does not react turn around without saying anything and park yourself outside the office or Court room or his/her chambers.

    3-The Judge being a Corporate entity will immediately call a corporate County or District attorney because they can not make any decision without there corporate Attorney or he/she will ask you for an extension of time. Most Attorneys aren't at work until 9:00 AM in the mornings. If he/she wants an extension do not give it. Stay out of their Jurisdiction.

    4-If the Judge does get an Attorney they will proceed to tell you that you paper work must be filed into the County Records before they can honor your request. Do not fall for this trap. Just state sorry but I have only 30 minutes left on my hour or something like that.

    5-If the first judge you see does sign the order for the sheriff then ask where the body will be brought to.

    6-Follow directions attached What to say and do in court. If you have not versed the prisoner on this then you must take the Plaintiffs position as the POAIF.

    7-If judge is not going to sign the order then walk away and go find the County Judge who is the Judge over the Constitutional County Court which the court room is usually in his/her County Judge office. Know where this location is prior to starting the whole process. Follow the same process with the County judge. Do not ask anyone where this office is or you will never see him/her. Words travel faster in a court house (den of thieves) than you can walk ten feet.

    8. If this fails consider going to the Mayor of the City who is the Highest magistrate in town.
    Best Regards,
    Glenn Winningham; house of Fearn, sui jurissovereign living soul, holder of the office of "the people"Inhabitant of the land of Albertawith full responsibility for all of my actions at common law as found in the Bible

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    Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 15:02:17 -0700
    Subject: [Administrating:87] Re:
    the funnel for power
    From: engineerwin@gmail.com
    To: administrating-your-public-servants@googlegroups.com

    This is great stuff. If you read this, you will see that a citizen is a corporation,
    and that Alberta owns Precision Drilling. I converted it into a *.pdf file.

    On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 2:39 PM, minister Belanger <owlmon@gmail.com> wrote:
    http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/da...026/dsc13g.htm

    If you bow to defacto governments it is not only your knees that will be sore!
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    Schedule 13G Page 1 of 6
    SC 13G 1 dsc13g.htm SCHEDULE 13G
    Securities and Exchange Commission,
    Washington, D.C. 20549
    Schedule 13G
    Under the Securities Exchange Act of 1934
    (Amendment No.)*
    Precision Drilling Trust
    (Name of Issuer)
    Trust Units
    (Title of Class of Securities)
    740215108
    (CUSIP Number)
    April 22, 2009
    (Date of Event Which Requires Filing of this Statement)
    Check the appropriate box to designate the rule pursuant to which this Schedule is filed:  Rule 13d–1(b) Rule 13d–1(c) Rule 13d–1(d)


    * The remainder of this cover page shall be filled out for a reporting person’s initial filing on this form with respect
    to the subject class of securities, and for any subsequent amendment containing information which would alter
    the disclosures provided in a prior cover page.


    The information required in the remainder of this cover page shall not be deemed to be “filed” for the purpose of Section 18 of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 (“Act”) or otherwise subject to the liabilities of that section of the Act but shall be subject to all other provisions of the Act (however, see the Notes).
    Page 1 of 6 Pages
    http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/da...026/dsc13g.htm
    1/20/2011 Schedule 13G
    Page 2 of 6 CUSIP No. 740215108
    (1) Names of reporting persons
    Her Majesty the Queen in Right of the Province of Alberta as represented by Alberta Investment Management Corporation
    (2) Check the appropriate box if a member of a group
    (see instructions)(a)(b)
    (3) SEC use only (4) Citizenship or place of organization Alberta,Canada (5)
    Number of shares beneficially owned by each reporting person
    with:
    Sole voting power
    (6) Shared voting power (7) Sole dispositive power
    (8) Shared dispositive power
    51,162,856
    0
    51,162,856
    0
    (9) Aggregate amount beneficially owned by each reporting person
    51,162,856
    (10) Check if the aggregate amount in Row (9) excludes certain shares (see instructions)
    (11) Percent of class represented by amount in Row (9)
    19.98%
    (12) Type of reporting person (see instructions)

    FI
    Page 2 of 6 Pages
    http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/da...026/dsc13g.htm
    1/20/2011 Schedule 13G Page 3 of 6
    Item 1 (a) Name of issuer:
    Precision Drilling Trust
    Item 1 (b) Address of issuer’s principal executive offices:
    4200, 150 – 6th Avenue S.W.
    Calgary, Alberta, Canada
    T2P 3Y7
    2 (a) Name of person filing:
    Her Majesty the Queen in Right of the Province of Alberta as represented by Alberta
    Investment Management Corporation
    2 (b) Address or principal business office or, if none, residence:
    Room 340, Terrace Building, 9515 – 107 Street
    Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
    T5K 2C3
    2 (c) Citizenship:
    Alberta, Canada
    2 (d) Title of class of securities:
    Trust Units
    2 (e) CUSIP No.:
    740215108
    Item 3. If this statement is filed pursuant to §§240.13d–1(b) or 240.13d–2(b) or (c), check whether the
    person filing is a:
    (a) Broker or dealer registered under section 15 of the Act (15 U.S.C. 78o);
    (b) Bank as defined in section 3(a)(6) of the Act (15 U.S.C. 78c);
    (c) Insurance company as defined in section 3(a)(19) of the Act (15 U.S.C. 78c);
    (d) Investment company registered under section 8 of the Investment Company Act of
    1940 (15 U.S.C 80a–8);
    (e) An investment adviser in accordance with §240.13d–1(b)(1)(ii)(E);
    (f) An employee benefit plan or endowment fund in accordance with §240.13d–1(b)(1)(ii)
    (F);
    (g) A parent holding company or control person in accordance with §240.13d–1(b)(1)(ii)
    (G);
    (h) A savings associations as defined in Section 3(b) of the Federal Deposit Insurance Act
    (12 U.S.C. 1813);
    (i) A church plan that is excluded from the definition of an investment company under
    section 3(c)(14) of the Investment Company Act of 1940 (15 U.S.C. 80a-3);
    (j)  A non-U.S. institution in accordance with §240.13d–1(b)(1)(ii)(J);
    (k)
    Group, in accordance with §240.13d–1(b)(1)(ii)(K).
    If filing as a non-U.S. institution in accordance with §240.13d–1(b)(1)(ii)(J), please specify the type of institution:
    EP
    Page 3 of 6 Pages
    http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/da...026/dsc13g.htm
    1/20/2011 Schedule 13G Item 4. Page 4 of 6
    Ownership
    (a) Amount beneficially owned:
    51,162,856
    (b) Percent of class:
    19.98%
    (c) Number of shares as to which the person has:
    (i) Sole power to vote or to direct the vote:
    51,162,856
    (ii) Shared power to vote or to direct the vote:
    0
    (iii) Sole power to dispose or to direct the disposition of:
    51,162,856
    (iv) Shared power to dispose or to direct the disposition of:
    0
    Item 5.
    Ownership of 5 Percent or Less of a Class.
    Not applicable.
    Item 6.
    Ownership of More than 5 Percent on Behalf of Another Person.
    Pursuant to the Alberta Investment Management Corporation Act, R.S.A. c. A-26.5 (2007),
    Alberta Investment Management Corporation provides investment management services
    for a diverse group of Alberta public sector clients, including Alberta public sector pension
    plans and provincial endowment funds.
    Item 7.
    Identification and Classification of the Subsidiary Which Acquired the Security Being
    Reported on by the Parent Holding Company or Control Person.
    Not applicable.
    Item 8.
    Identification and Classification of Members of the Group.
    Not applicable.
    Item 9.
    Notice of Dissolution of Group.
    Not applicable.

    Item 10. Certifications
    By signing below I certify that, to the best of my knowledge and belief, the securities referred to above were acquired and are held in the ordinary course of business and were not acquired and are not held for the purpose of or with the effect of changing or influencing the control of the issuer of the securities and were not acquired and are not held in connection with or as a participant in any transaction having that purpose or effect.

    By signing below I certify that, to the best of my knowledge and belief, the foreign regulatory scheme applicable to an employee benefit plan or endowment fund in accordance with § 240.13d-1(b)(1)(ii)(F) is substantially comparable to the regulatory scheme applicable to the functionally equivalent U.S. institution(s). I also undertake to furnish to the Commission staff, upon request, information that would otherwise be disclosed in a Schedule 13D.
    Page 4 of 6 Pages
    http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/da...026/dsc13g.htm
    1/20/2011 Schedule 13G Page 5 of 6
    Signature. After reasonable inquiry and to the best of my knowledge and belief, I certify that the information set
    forth in this statement is true, complete and correct.
    Dated: May 5, 2009
    Page 5 of 6 Pages
    http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/da...026/dsc13g.htm
    1/20/2011 Schedule 13G Page 6 of 6
    HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN IN RIGHT OF
    THE PROVINCE OF ALBERTA
    as represented by
    ALBERTA INVESTMENT MANAGEMENT
    CORPORATION pursuant to the Alberta
    Investment Corporation Act
    /S/ JAI PARIHAR
    By:
    Name: JAI PARIHAR
    Title: COO
    /s/ JAGDEEP SINGH BACHHER
    By:
    Name: JAGDEEP SINGH BACHHER
    Title: COO
    Page 6 of 6 Pages
    http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/da...026/dsc13g.htm
    1/20/2011




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    5 Reasons Why Christians Should Not Obtain a State Marriage License
    by Pastor Matt Trewhella
    Every year thousands of Christians amble down to their local county courthouse and obtain a marriage license from the State in order to marry their future spouse. They do this unquestioningly.
    They do it because their pastor has told them to go get one, and besides, "everybody else gets one." This pamphlet attempts to answer the question - why should we not get one?

    1. The definition of a "license" demands that we not obtain one to marry.

    Black’s Law Dictionary defines
    "license" as, "The permission by competent authority to do an act which without such permission, would be illegal."
    We need to ask ourselves- why should it be illegal to marry without the State’s permission? More importantly, why should we need the State’s permission to participate in something which God instituted (Gen. 2:18-24)? We should not need the State’s permission to marry nor should we grovel before state officials to seek it.
    What if you apply and the State says "no"?
    You must understand that the authority to license implies the power to prohibit. A license by definition "confers a right" to do something. The State cannot grant the right to marry. It is a God-given right.
    2. When you marry with a marriage license, you grant the State jurisdiction over your marriage.
    When you marry with a marriage license, your marriage is a creature of the State.
    It is a corporation of the State!
    Therefore, they have jurisdiction over your marriage including the fruit of your marriage. What is the fruit of your marriage?
    Your children and every piece of property you own. There is plenty of case law in American jurisprudence which declares this to be true.

    In 1993, parents were upset here in Wisconsin because a test was being administered to their children in the government schools which was very invasive of the family’s privacy.
    When parents complained, they were shocked by the school bureaucrats who informed them that their children were required to take the test by law and that they would have to take the test because they (the government school) had jurisdiction over their children. When parents asked the bureaucrats what gave them jurisdiction, the bureaucrats answered, "your marriage license and their birth certificates."
    Judicially, and in increasing fashion, practically, your state marriage license has far-reaching implications.
    3. When you marry with a marriage license, you place yourself under a body of law which is immoral.
    By obtaining a marriage license, you place yourself under the jurisdiction of Family Court which is governed by unbiblical and immoral laws.
    Under these laws, you can divorce for any reason.
    Often, the courts side with the spouse who is in rebellion to God, and castigates the spouse who remains faithful by ordering him or her not to speak about the Bible or other matters of faith when present with the children.


    As a minister, I cannot in good conscience perform a marriage which would place people under this immoral body of laws. I also cannot marry someone with a marriage license because to do so I have to act as an agent of the State! I would have to sign the marriage license, and I would have to mail it into the State.
    Given the State’s demand to usurp the place of God and family regarding marriage, and given it’s unbiblical, immoral laws to govern marriage, it would be an act of treason for me to do so.
    4. The marriage license invades and removes God-given parental authority.
    When you read the Bible, you see that God intended for children to have their father’s blessing regarding whom they married.
    Daughters were to be given in marriage by their fathers (Dt. 22:16; Ex. 22:17; I Cor. 7:38). We have a vestige of this in our culture today in that the father takes his daughter to the front of the altar and the minister asks, "Who gives this woman to be married to this man?"


    Historically, there was no requirement to obtain a marriage license in colonial America.
    When you read the laws of the colonies and then the states, you see only two requirements for marriage. First, you had to obtain your parents permission to marry, and second, you had to post public notice of the marriage 5-15 days before the ceremony.

    Notice you had to obtain your parents permission. Back then you saw godly government displayed in that the State recognized the parents authority by demanding that the parents permission be obtained.
    Today, the all-encompassing ungodly State demands that their permission be obtained to marry.

    By issuing marriage licenses, the State is saying, "You don’t need your parents permission, you need our permission." If parents are opposed to their child’s marrying a certain person and refuse to give their permission, the child can do an end run around the parents authority by obtaining the State’s permission, and marry anyway.
    This is an invasion and removal of God-given parental authority by the State.
    5. When you marry with a marriage license, you are like a polygamist.
    From the State’s point of view, when you marry with a marriage license, you are not just marrying your spouse, but you are also marrying the State.


    The most blatant declaration of this fact that I have ever found is a brochure entitled "With This Ring I Thee Wed." It is found in county courthouses across Ohio where people go to obtain their marriage licenses. It is published by the Ohio State Bar Association.
    The opening paragraph under the subtitle
    "Marriage Vows"
    states,

    "Actually, when you repeat your marriage vows you enter into a legal contract. There are three parties to that contract. 1.You; 2. Your husband or wife, as the case may be; and 3. the State of Ohio."

    See, the State and the lawyers know that when you marry with a marriage license, you are not just marrying your spouse, you are marrying the State!
    You are like a polygamist! You are not just making a vow to your spouse, but you are making a vow to the State and your spouse. You are also giving undue jurisdiction to the State.
    When Does the State Have Jurisdiction Over a Marriage?
    God intended the State to have jurisdiction over a marriage for two reasons -
    1). in the case of divorce, and
    2). when crimes are committed i.e., adultery, bigamy. etc.
    Unfortunately, the State now allows divorce for any reason, and it does not prosecute for adultery.

    In either case, divorce or crime, a marriage license is not necessary for the courts to determine whether a marriage existed or not.
    What is needed are witnesses. This is why you have a best man and a maid of honor. They should sign the marriage certificate in your family Bible, and the wedding day guest book should be kept.

    Marriage was instituted by God, therefore it is a God-given right.
    According to Scripture, it is to be governed by the family, and the State only has jurisdiction in the cases of divorce or crime.
    History of Marriage Licenses in America

    George Washington was married without a marriage license. So, how did we come to this place in America where marriage licenses are issued?

    Historically, all the states in America had laws outlawing the marriage of blacks and whites. In the mid-1800’s, certain states began allowing interracial marriages or miscegenation as long as those marrying received a license from the state.
    In other words they had to receive permission to do an act which without such permission would have been illegal.


    Blacks Law Dictionary points to this historical fact when it defines

    "marriage license"
    as, "A license or permission granted by public authority to persons who intend to intermarry."
    "Intermarry"
    is defined in Black’s Law Dictionary as,
    "Miscegenation; mixed or interracial marriages."

    Give the State an inch and they will take a 100 miles (or as one elderly woman once said to me "10,000 miles.")
    Not long after these licenses were issued, some states began requiring all people who marry to obtain a marriage license. In 1923, the Federal Government established the Uniform Marriage and Marriage License Act (they later established the Uniform Marriage and Divorce Act).
    By 1929, every state in the Union had adopted marriage license laws.
    What Should We Do?
    Christian couples should not be marrying with State marriage licenses, nor should ministers be marrying people with State marriage licenses. Some have said to me,
    "If someone is married without a marriage license, then they aren’t really married."
    Given the fact that states may soon legalize same-sex marriages, we need to ask ourselves,
    "If a man and a man marry with a State marriage license, and a man and woman marry without a State marriage license - who’s really married?
    Is it the two men with a marriage license, or the man and woman without a marriage license? In reality, this contention that people are not really married unless they obtain a marriage license simply reveals how Statist we are in our thinking.
    We need to think biblically. (As for homosexuals marrying, outlaw sodomy as God's law demands, and there will be no threat of sodomites marrying.)


    You should not have to obtain a license from the State to marry someone anymore than you should have to obtain a license from the State to be a parent, which some in academic and legislative circles are currently pushing to be made law.


    When I marry a couple, I always buy them a Family Bible which contains birth and death records, and a marriage certificate. We record the marriage in the Family Bible.
    What’s recorded in a Family Bible will stand up as legal evidence in any court of law in America. Early Americans were married without a marriage license.They simply recorded their marriages in their Family Bibles.
    So should we.

    (Pastor Trewhella has been marrying couples without marriage licenses for ten years. Many other pastors also refuse to marry couples with State marriage licenses.)

    This pamphlet is not comprehensive in scope. Rather, the purpose of this pamphlet is to make you think and give you a starting point to do further study of your own.

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    BANKING AND FINANCE QUOTES

    A COMPILATION OF MANY QUOTATIONS OVER MANY YEARS, BY MANY EMINENT PERSONS, ON THE EVILS OF THE MODERN BANKING SYSTEM. PLEASE STUDY, AND SAVE IT INTO YOUR ARCHIVES. YOU ARE GOING TO NEED IT, PERHAPS SOONER THAN YOU
    Think

    Banking, Finance, & The Money System.
    It's time the people of Australia knew the alarming facts.

    Test your own knowledge of these facts by the following questions:

    Do you know that no bank lends money deposited with it?
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    Do you know that when a bank lends money it CREATES it out of nothing?
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    Do you know that bank loans are merely pen and ink entries in the credit columns of a bank's ledger? They have no other existence.
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    Do you know that practically all the money in the community comes into circulation as a debt to the banks?
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    Do you know that money loaned by a Government bank is just as much a debt to the people as if it were loaned from a private bank?
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    Do you know that "fixed deposits" are a plausible screen to hide the creation of credit?
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    Did it ever occur to you that the banks enjoy this unique facility of creating credit and putting the nation progressively into debt-bondage because they create FINANCIAL credit against the REAL credit created by the
    people?

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    Do you realize that every time a Government borrows money for a public work, the people are debited with the liability (in perpetuity), but are never credited with the value of the asset?
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    Do you know that every repayment of a bank loan cancels the amount of the loan out of existence?
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    Do you know that Treasury Notes are Government I.O.U.'s — national pawn tickets for pledging the assets of the country to the banks for the loan of
    OUR OWN financial credit?
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    Do you know that banks purchase bank sites, build premises, and acquire assets at no real cost whatever to themselves — by the simple process of honoring their own checks?
    The respective Australian governments, both state and federal, (not the
    people) have run up public debts over the years to near breaking point, and debiting those debts to us, the people,
    BUT WE, THE PEOPLE HAVE NEVER EVER
    BEEN CREDITED WITH THE ASSETS, THEREBY DEFRAUDING THE AUSTRALIAN PEOPLE OF
    OUR BIRTHRIGHT, AND DISPOSSESSING US OF OUR LEGITIMATE ASSETS, I.E., THE
    COMMON WEALTH OF THE LAND KNOWN AS THE COMMONWEALTH OF AUSTRALIA.

    The policies of every federal government, irrespective of which party is in power, and most state governments over the last fifty (50) years have been nothing more or less than thinly veiled, incrementally introduced ,
    warmed-up Marxism, under the appearance of, and masquerading as a constitutional monarchy.
    "The Bank hath benefit of interest on all monies, which it creates out of nothing."
    The boastful statement of the co-founder
    (and the Financiers' 'Front Man')of the (privately owned)
    Bank of England, William Patterson,

    upon its foundation in 1694.
    "The most hated sort of money-making and with the greatest reason, is
    usury,
    which makes a gain out of money itself, and not from the natural use of it – for money was intended merely for exchange, not for increase at interest.

    And this term interest, which implies the birth of money from money, is applied to the breeding of money, because the off-spring resembles the parent. Whereof of all modes of money-making, this is the most unnatural."
    Statement of Aristotle on Usury, 350 BC.
    "He who takes up usury for a loan of money acts unjustly, for he sells what does not exist. It is wrong in itself to take a price (usury) for the use of money lent. And as in the case of other offences against justice, one is bound to make restitution of his unjustly acquired money."
    Statement of St.Thomas Aquinas.
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    "The function of money is not to make money, but to move goods. Money is only one part of our transportation system. It moves goods from man to man.
    A dollar bill is like a postage stamp, it is no good unless it will move commodities between persons. If a postage stamp will not carry a letter or will not move goods, it is just the same as an engine that will not run.
    Someone will have to get out and fix it."
    Statement of Henry Ford.
    "The modern banking system manufactures money out of nothing. The process is perhaps the most astounding piece of sleight of hand that was ever invented.
    Banking was conceived in iniquity and born in sin…...bankers own the earth.
    Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create money, and with a flick of the pen, they will create enough money to buy it back again…
    ….take this great power away from them and all the great fortunes like mine will disappear, and they ought to disappear, for then this would be a better world to live in …… but if you want to continue to be slaves of the bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery,
    then let bankers continue to create money and control credit."

    The writings of Sir Josiah Stamp,
    President of the Bank of England,
    at the University of Texas, 1920.
    "Of all the discoveries and inventions by which we live and die, this totally improbable helix of credit is the most cunning, the most liable, the least comprehended, and, next to high explosives, the most dangerous. All that bankers themselves know about it is how it works from day to day.
    Beyond that, it is a bit from Pandora."
    Statement by Garet Garret,
    author of
    "The Bubble that Broke the World",
    and regarded as "the clearest expositor
    of economics in the United States";
    "When banks grant credit by creating or adding to deposits subject to check. . new dollars are created.
    They are credit dollars and they are created by the stroke of a pen rather than by dies and the stamping machines, but their purchasing power is not less than that of the dollars coined at the government mint . . . the principal way in which dollars are created in modern economic society is by borrowing."

    Statement of Sumner H. Slichter,
    Professor of Business Economics at Harvard;
    "We have already learned that the most important kind of money is credit.
    The most important kind of credit is credit created out of thin air by the banking system.

    Eighty per cent of the volume of business in Canada uses money that isn't there.
    Banks lend it out of nowhere to people, and when it
    is paid back, it returns to nowhere. It can't be seen, yet it can make the difference between full employment and mass unemployment.
    MOST OF THE
    REVENUE OF BANKS IS INTEREST ON MONEY THAT DOES NOT EXIST."
    Statement of W. Trimble of Ryerson Institute, Toronto,
    writing in "Understanding the Canadian Economy;

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    "The money power preys upon the nation in times of peace, and conspires against it in times of adversity. It is more despotic than monarchy, more insolent than autocracy, more selfish than bureaucracy. It denounces, as public enemies, all who question its methods, or throw light upon its crimes."
    Statement of William Jennings Bryan;
    "I am afraid that the ordinary citizen will not like to be told that banks can and do create and destroy money. The amount of money in existence varies only with the action of the banks in increasing or decreasing deposits and bank purchases.
    We know how this is effected.
    Every loan, overdraft or bank purchase creates a deposit, and every repayment of a loan, overdraft or bank sale destroys a deposit.
    And they who control the credit of a nation direct the policy of governments, and hold in the hollow of their hands the destiny of the people."
    Statement of the Rt. Hon Reginald McKenna,
    former Chancellor
    of the Exchequer, and Chairman of the Midland Bank,
    addressing a meeting of the shareholders of the bank on January 25, 1924
    (recorded in his book, "post-War Banking");

    "A credit in the Bank of England's books is regarded by the financial community as 'cash', and this pleasant fiction has given the bank the power of creating cash by the stroke of a pen, and to any extent it pleases,
    subject only to its own view as to what is prudent and sound business.

    Statement of Hartley Withers
    in his book, "International Finance";
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    " . . . Today in Australia, as in most other modern economies, all money is a debt of the banking system." MINDFUL of the statement by the Bank of N.S.W.
    in its Special Article 'Sources of Money' in the 'Bank of New South Wales
    Review', October 1978;
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    "I sincerely believe that banking institutions are more dangerous than standing armies. Already they have raised up a moneyed aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs."
    Thomas Jefferson;
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    "If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, . . . . . the banks and the corporations which grow up around them will deprive the people of all property, until their children
    wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered."
    A further
    statement by Thomas Jefferson;
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    "I have two great enemies; the southern army in front of me, and the financial powers behind me. Of the two, the enemy to my rear is the greater foe."
    The famous statement of President Abraham Lincoln during the Civil War;
    "The government should create, issue, and circulate all the currency and credit needed to satisfy the spending power of the government and the buying power of the consumers.
    The privilege of creating and issuing money is not only the supreme prerogative of the government, but it is the government's greatest creative opportunity.

    "The financing of all public enterprise, and the conduct of the treasury will become matters of practical administration. Money will cease to be master, and will become servant of humanity."
    The writings of Abraham Lincoln,
    shortly before he was assassinated;
    "We have stricken the shackles from 4,000,000 human beings and brought all labourers to a common level, but not so much by the elevation of former slaves as by reducing the whole working population, white and black, to a
    condition of serfdom.
    While boasting of our noble deeds, we are careful to
    conceal the ugly fact that by our iniquitous money system, we have manipulated a system of oppression which, though more refined, is no less cruel than the old system of chattel slavery . . . .
    . . . . the concentration of capital and the growth of their turnover is radically challenging the significance of the banks.

    Scattered capitalists are transformed into a single collective capitalist. When carrying the current account of a few capitalists, the banks, as it were, transact a purely technical and exclusively auxiliary operation.

    When, however, these operations grow to enormous dimensions, we find that a handful of monopolists control all the operations, both commercial and industrial, of capitalist society.

    They can, by means of their banking connections . . .first ascertain exactly the position of the various capitalists, then control them, influence them by restricting or enlarging, facilitating or hindering their credits, and finally they can entirely determine their fate."

    From the writings of Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin);

    "There is no better way to destroy the capitalist system than to debauch the currency."
    A further statement of Lenin;
    "Give me the control of the credit of a nation, and I care not who makes the laws."
    The famous boastful statement of Nathaniel Meyer Rothschild,
    speaking to a group of international bankers, 1912;
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    "The few who could understand the system (cheque, money, credits) will either be so interested in its profits, or so dependent on its favours, that there will be no opposition from that class, while on the other hand, the
    great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that capital derives from the system, will bear its burdens without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests."

    The boastful statement by Rothschild Bros. of London;
    "When a bank lends, it creates money out of nothing."
    Statement of R.G. Hawtrey,
    former Assistant Under-Secretary to the British Treasury; in his book, "Trade Depression and the Way out";
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    "Banks create credit. It is a mistake to suppose that bank credit is created to any important extent by the payment of money into the banks.
    The bank's debit is a means of payment, it is credit money. It is a clear addition to the amount of the means of payment in the community."
    Statement in Encyclopedia Brittanica, 14th Edition, under the Heading of Banking and
    Credit (Vol. 3, Page 48);
    "If a nation can issue a dollar bond, it can issue a dollar bill. The elements that make the bond good makes the bill good also.
    The difference between the bond and the bill is that the bond lets the money broker collect twice the amount of the bond and an additional 20%.
    Whereas the currency, the honest sort provided by the constitution, pays nobody but those who contribute in some useful way. It is absurd to say that our Country can issue bonds and cannot issue currency. Both are promises to pay, but one fattens the usurer, while the other helps the People."

    Statement by Thomas Edison;
    "Whoever controls the volume of money in any country is absolute master of all industry and commerce. And when you realize that the entire system is very easily controlled, one way or another, by a few powerful men at the top, you will not have to be told how periods of inflation and depression originate."
    Statement by USA President James A. Garfield;
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    "The hand that gives is above the hand that takes. Money has no motherland;
    financiers are without patriotism and without decency; their sole object is gain."

    Statement of Napoleon Bonaparte;
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    The modern banking system manufactures money out of nothing. The process is perhaps the most astounding piece of sleight of hand that was ever invented.
    Banks can inflate, mint and un-mint the modern ledger-entry currency."

    Statement by Major L. L. B. Angu;
    "The banks can create and destroy money. Bank credit is money. It's the money we do most of our business with, not with that currency which we usually think of as money."
    Statement by Governor Eccles,
    former head of the
    Federal Reserve Bank Board of the United States,
    made in evidence before a
    Congressional Committee;
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    "There can be no doubt that all deposits are created by the banks."
    Statement of Lord Keynes,
    economist and former board member of
    the Bank of England;
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    "The percentage of cash to credit necessary for a bank to hold, demonstrated over a period of years, is 2 ½%, with 7 ½% as a reserve with other banks."
    Statement by Professor H. Kniffer,
    in his "American Banking Practice";
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    "Banking is little more than book-keeping. It is a transfer of credit from one person to another. The transfer is by cheque. Cheques are currency
    (notlegal tender).
    Currency is money."
    Statement of Sir Edward Holden,
    an eminent British banker;
    MINDFUL of the fact that the above situation has in fact been accomplished, due to a consistent, progressive and continuous programme of deceit, subterfuge, cunning and make-believe on the part of the banks, and by successive, subservient fabian socialist/masonic "governments", both state and federal, in violation of their oaths of office, and to the gradual detriment and destruction of the assets of the people of Australia.
    "If the American people knew and understood the banking and financial system as I do, then I believe there would be a revolution before morning,"
    Warning by Mr. Henry Ford

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    "It was not accidental. It was a carefully contrived occurrence . . The international bankers sought to bring about a condition of despair here, so that they might emerge as rulers of us all."
    Statement by Rep. Louis T. McFadden,
    Chairman of the House Banking and Currency Committee, regarding the 1929 Wall Street crash;
    "After World War 1, Germany fell into the hands of German international bankers. Those bankers bought her, and now they own her, lock, stock, and
    barrel.
    They have purchased her industries, they have mortgages on her soil, they control her production, they control all her public utilities. The international German bankers have subsidised the present government of
    Germany, and they have also supplied every dollar of the money Adolph Hitler has used in his lavish campaign to build up a threat to the government of
    Bruening.
    When Bruening fails to obey the orders of German international bankers, Hitler is brought forth to scare the Germans into submission . .
    .Through the Federal Reserve Board . . . over $30 Billions of American money has been paid into Germany . . . You have all heard of the spending that has taken place in Germany. . . modernistic dwellings, her great planetariums, her gymnasiums, her swimming pools, her fine public highways, her perfect factories. All this was done on our money. All this was given to Germany
    through the Federal Reserve Board.
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    "The Federal Reserve has pumped so many billions of dollars into Germany, that they dare not name the total."
    Further warning by the same Louis T.
    McFadden,

    eight years before Hitler invaded Poland, regarding the rise to power of Adolph Hitler;
    "Practices of the unscrupulous money changers stand indicted in the court of public opinion, rejected by the hearts and minds of men . . . The money changers have fled from their high seats in the temple of our civilization."
    Statement by President of Franklin D. Roosevelt, March 4th, 1933
    (before he did a back-flip and became their subservient tool);
    "The powers of financial capitalism has (a) far reaching (plan), nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands,
    able to dominate the political system of each country, and the economy of the world as a whole.

    This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences.

    "The apex of the system was to be
    the Bank for International Settlements,
    in Basle, Switzerland,

    a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks, which were themselves private corporations.

    "Each central bank . . . sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence co-operative politicians by subsequent rewards in the business world."

    Statement of Professor Carroll Quigley, Georgetown University, former "insider," and
    author of the book, "Tragedy and Hope";
    "The Federal Reserve definitely caused the Great Depression by contracting the amount of currency in circulation by one third from 1929 to 1933."
    Statement by Milton Freedman,
    Nobel Prize winning economist, in 1996;
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    "The issue which has swept down the centuries and which will have to be fought sooner or later, is the people versus the banks."
    Statement by Lord Acton;
    "This is a staggering thought. We are completely dependent on the commercial banks. Someone has to borrow every dollar we have in circulation, cash or credit. If the banks create ample synthetic money, we are prosperous; if
    not, we starve. We are absolutely without a permanent money system. When one gets a complete grasp of the picture, the tragic absurdity of our hopeless position is almost incredible, but there it is.
    It is the most important
    subject intelligent persons can investigate and reflect upon.
    It is so important that our present civilization may collapse unless it becomes widely understood, and the defects remedied very soon."

    Warning by Robert H. Hemphill
    (former Credit Manager of the Federal Reserve Bank, Atlanta Ga.);
    ***************************************
    "History records that the money-changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling money and its issuance."
    Warning by U.S. President James Maddison,
    shortly before he was assassinated;
    "The Federal Reserve is one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever seen. There is not a man within the sound of my voice who does not know that this Nation is run by the International Banks."
    Warning by Congressman Louis T. McFadden;

    "History shows that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit and violent means possible to maintain control over governments by controlling the money and the issuance of it"--
    President James Madison.

    "Most Americans and Australians, and for that matter, most people of the world have no real understandings of the operation of the international money lenders. The accounts of the Federal Reserve System have never been
    audited. It operates outside the control of Congress, and manipulates the credit of the United States, and for that matter, the credit of the entire world."

    Warning by Senator Barry Goldwater;
    MINDFUL of the fact that all money which comes into existence, does so as debt to the banking system, and that the banks do not create the interest, so that there is never enough money in existence, anywhere in the world, to repay both the debt and the interest, resulting in a situation where there is a deliberate, world-wide, artificial scarcity of money, and therefore an ever-increasing debt to that banking system.

    MINDFUL that such a debt-based money system (where the capital is created
    out of thin air by the banks, at the stroke of a pen, and then loaned out by the banks, to the borrowers, whereby the borrowers are expected to pay back the capital, plus interest, which interest does not exist in the first place) is not only mathematically an inherently flawed, impossible system, but deliberately fraudulent.

    MINDFUL that where money speaks, there all law is silent.
    "He who takes usury for a loan of money acts unjustly, for he sells what does not exist. It is wrong in itself to take a price (usury) for the use of money lent, and as in the case of other offences against justice, one is bound to make restitution of his unjustly acquired money."
    Statement by Saint Thomas Aquinas;
    "Because of this power (of credit creation), the Commonwealth Bank (now the Reserve Bank of Australia) is able to increase the cash of the trading banks in the ways we have pointed out above.

    "Because of this power too, the Commonwealth Bank can increase the cash reserves of the trading banks; for example, it can buy securities and other property, it can lend to the government or to others in a variety of ways,
    and it can even make money available to the Governments and to others free of any charge."

    Asked to interpret this last clause, Mr. Justice Napier, Chairman of the Commission, replied, through the Secretary of the Commission, Mr. Harris, as
    follows:

    "This statement means that the Commonwealth Bank can make money available to Governments or to others on such terms as it chooses, even by way of a loan
    without interest,
    OR EVEN WITHOUT REQUIRING EITHER INTEREST OR REPAYMENT OF
    PRINCIPAL."

    Report of the Australian Royal Commission into the Monetary and Banking system of Australia in (1937), Section 504, "Creation of Credit";
    "As the inflation proceeds and the real value of the currency fluctuates wildly from month to month, all permanent relations between debtors and creditors, which form the ultimate foundation of capitalism, become so utterly disordered as to be almost meaningless; and the process of wealth-getting degenerates into a gamble and a lottery.

    Lenin was certainly right. There is no subtler, no surer means of
    overturning the existing basis of society than to debauch the currency. The process engages all the hidden forces of economic law on the side of destruction, and does it in a manner which not one man in a million is able to diagnose."
    John Maynard Keynes
    The Bankers Own The Earth
    QUOTATIONS THAT VALIDATE THAT STATEMENT
    Courtesy of Indy-Media

    Citizen Zer0 , Mar 12, 2005 @ 19:28 GMT

    More pithy new quotes added. Some older quotes have been corrected for
    accuracy and attribution. Some new resource links added.
    "Government is not reason; it is not eloquence; it is force! Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master."
    - George Washington
    ***********************************
    "I am convinced that those societies (such as the Native American peoples) which live without government enjoy in their general mass an infinitely greater degree of happiness than those who live under the European
    governments. Among the former, public opinion is in the place of law, & restrains morals as powerfully as laws ever did anywhere. Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two
    classes, wolves & sheep. I do not exaggerate."
    - Thomas Jefferson
    *************************************
    "The modern theory of the perpetuation of debt has drenched the earth with blood, and crushed its inhabitants under burdens ever accumulating."
    - Thomas Jefferson
    ***************************************
    "I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country."
    - Thomas Jefferson
    ************************************
    "If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them (around the banks), will deprive
    the people of their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered."

    Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), US Founding Father
    *********************************************
    "I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a moneyed aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power (of money) should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly
    belongs."
    - Thomas Jefferson
    ******************************************
    "The system of banking we have both equally and ever reprobated. I contemplate it as a blot left in all our constitutions, which, if not covered, will end in their destruction. I sincerely believe, with you...that
    the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale."
    - Thomas Jefferson
    ****************************************
    "To take a single step beyond the boundaries thus specially drawn around the powers of Congress is to take possession of a boundless field of power, no longer susceptible of any definition. The incorporation of a bank, and the powers assumed by this bill
    [chartering the first Bank of the United States]
    have not, in my opinion, been delegated to the United States by the Constitution. They are not among the powers specially enumerated."
    - Thomas Jefferson
    ***************************************
    "I wish it were possible to obtain a single amendment to our Constitution - taking from the Federal government their power of borrowing
    (from privately-owned corporate banks)."
    - Thomas Jefferson, 1798
    **********************************
    "We are undone, my dear sir, if legislation is still permitted which makes our money, much or little, real or imaginary, as the moneyed interests shall choose to make it."
    - Thomas Jefferson
    "All the perplexities, confusions, and distresses in America arise, not from
    defects in the Constitution or confederation, not from want of honor or virtue, as much as from downright ignorance of the nature of coin, credit, and circulation."

    - John Adams
    *********************************
    "Liberty cannot be preserved without a general knowledge among the people, who have a right...and a desire to know; but besides this, they have a right, an indisputable, unalienable, indefeasible, divine right to that most dreaded and envied kind of knowledge, I mean of the characters and conduct of their rulers."
    - John Adams
    "We, the People, are the rightful masters of both the Congress and the Courts. Not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the men who haveperverted it."
    - Abraham Lincoln
    *******************************
    "I have two great enemies, the southern army in front of me and the financial institutions in the rear. Of the two, the one in the rear is the greatest enemy.
    The money power preys upon the nation in times of peace, and conspires against it in times of adversity.
    It is more despotic than monarchy, more insolent than autocracy, more selfish than bureaucracy. It denounces, as public enemies, all who question its methods or throw light upon its crimes."

    - Abraham Lincoln
    **********************************
    "The Government should create, issue, and circulate all the currency and credits needed to satisfy the spending power of the Government and the buying power of consumers. The privilege of creating and issuing money is
    not only the supreme prerogative of Government, but it is the Government's greatest creative opportunity. By the adoption of these principles...the taxpayers will be saved immense sums of interest
    [by not having to borrow from privately-owned corporate banks]...
    ..Money will cease to be master and become the servant of humanity. Democracy will rise superior to the money
    power."

    - Abraham Lincoln, Senate Document 23, Page 91, 1865
    *************************************
    "I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. Corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money
    power of the country will endeavour to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people
    (e.g., by pitting the cooperation-oriented political left against the competition-oriented political right),
    until the wealth is aggregated in the hands of a few, and the Republic is destroyed. I feel at this moment more anxiety for the safety of my country than ever before, even in the midst of the war."
    - Abraham Lincoln
    "The division of the United States into federations of equal force was
    decided long before the Civil War by the high financial powers of Europe.
    These bankers were afraid that the US, if they remained as one block, and as one nation, would attain economic and financial independence, which would upset their financial domination over the world."

    - Otto von Bismarck, Chancellor of Germany, 1876
    ********************************
    "The death of Lincoln was a disaster for Christendom. There was no man in the United States great enough to wear his boots and the bankers went anew to grab the riches. I fear that foreign bankers with their craftiness and tortuous tricks will entirely control the exuberant riches of America and use it to systematically corrupt modern civilization."
    - Otto von Bismarck, Chancellor of Germany, after Lincoln's assassination
    "Right after the Civil War there was considerable talk about reviving Lincoln's brief experiment with the Constitutional monetary system. Had not the European money-trust intervened, it would have no doubt become an established institution."
    - W. Cleon Skousen
    *******************************************
    "If that mischievous financial policy which had its origin in the North American Republic
    [i.e., honest Constitutionally authorized debt-free money]
    should become indurated down to a fixture, then that government will furnish its own money without cost. It will pay off its debts and be without a debt
    (to the International Bankers).
    It will have all the money necessary to carry on its commerce. It will become prosperous beyond precedent in the history of the civilized governments of the world.
    The brains and wealth of all countries will go to North America. That government must be destroyed or it will destroy every monarchy on the globe."

    -
    The Hazard Circular
    (England), distributed to wealthy aristocrats prior to
    the Civil War, 1862
    ******************************************
    "I went to America in the winter of 1872-73, authorised to secure, if I could, the passage of a bill demonetising silver. It was in the interest of those I represented - the governors of the Bank of England - to have it
    done. By 1873, gold coins were the only form of coin money."
    - Ernest Seyd, agent of Bank of England
    "Corporate entities are persons, under the law. They are separate persons from the very real human persons who own them and run them.
    We have the Supreme Court of the United States to thank for this perversion.
    Through corruption of our government and courts, corporations subverted their original intended purpose and acquired the legal status of "natural persons"
    while also preserving their limited-liability legal protections (which results in corporate 'citizens' having more legal rights than human citizens do).
    This subversion was institutionalized in an 1886 Supreme Court decision of which
    Justice William O. Douglas would later write,
    "There was no history, logic, or reason given to support that view."
    Thus corporations gained Bill of Rights protections, and more, even before women and minorities had full protection. We are currently living in an era of
    sophisticated corporation-state feudalism."

    - [Anonymous]
    "Unless you become more watchful in your states and check this spirit of monopoly and thirst for exclusive privileges, you will in the end find that the most important powers of government have been given or bartered away, and the control of your dearest interests have been passed into the hands of these corporations."
    - Andrew Jackson
    *********************************
    "If congress has the right under the Constitution to issue paper money, it was given them to use themselves, not to be delegated to individuals or corporations."
    - Andrew Jackson
    **********************************
    "You (International Bankers) are a den of vipers and thieves. I intend to rout you out, and by the Eternal God, I will rout you out. If the American people only understood the rank injustice of our money and banking system, there would be a revolution before morning."
    - Andrew Jackson
    in an address to Congress, 1829
    *********************************
    "The bold effort the present bank has made to control the Government, the distress it has wantonly produced...are but premonitions of the fate that awaits the American People should they be deluded into a perpetuation of
    this institution [The Bank of the United States], or the establishment of another like it."
    - Andrew Jackson
    "History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling money and its issuance."
    - James Madison
    ************************************
    "Permit me to issue and control the money of a nation and I care not who
    makes the laws.
    "

    - Mayer Amschel Rothschild, founder of the Rothschild international banking
    dynasty, 1790

    **********************************
    "Whomsoever controls the volume of money in any country is absolute master of all industry and commerce and when you realize that the entire system is very easily controlled, one way or another, by a few powerful men at the top, you will not have to be told how periods of inflation and depression originate."
    - James Garfield, assassinated within weeks of release of this statement
    during the first year of his presidency in 1881
    ****************************************
    "I am afraid that ordinary citizens will not like to be told that the banks can, and do, create and destroy money. And they who control the credit of the nation direct the policy of governments, and hold in the hollow of their
    hands the destiny of the people."

    - Reginald McKenna,
    Chancellor of the Exchequer of England, Chairman of the
    Board of Midlands Bank, 1924
    *********************************
    "From the days of Spartacist-Wieshaupt to those of Karl Marx, and down to Trotsky, Bela Kuhn, Rosa Luxemburg, and Emma Goldman, this world conspiracy
    for the overthrow of civilization and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible
    equality, has been steadily growing. This conspiracy played a definite recognizable role in the tragedy of the French revolution. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the 19th century. And now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their head and have become the undisputed masters of that enormous empire."

    - Winston Churchill in the Illustrated Sunday Herald, February 8, 1920
    ******************************************
    "Behind the October Revolution there are more influential personalities than the thinkers and executors of Marxism."
    - Lenin
    "If I told you I thought the world was controlled by a handful of capitalists and corporate bosses, you would say I was a left-winger, but if
    I told you who I thought the capitalists and corporate bosses were, you would say I was far right."
    - Anonymous Anarchist Black Blocker
    "Left and Right are monolithic ideas - colossal, abstract, and, as their religious origins suggest, cosmic. They are part of the darker side of humanity that replaces the specific with the general, the personal with the impersonal.

    If you wanted to find a way of making certain that people would have as little as possible in common, there would be no better way than to divide them, not into ten or three or four, but into two.

    Dual division turns the largest possible sections of humanity against one another, often causing neighbors and compatriots to have nothing to say to one another.

    No regeneration of community can begin without a careful demolition of Left and Right; nor can this tearing down be relinquished to academic abstraction, technical philosophy, government, corporations, or ideology.

    Nothing can be built without a new politics - least of all with a politics that refers outward to ideas of Heaven and Hell rather than inward to the experience of daily life."

    - Hugh Graham, in his book "The Vestibule of Hell:
    Why Left and Right Have
    Never Made Sense in Politics and Life"



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    rpminz Posted: 23-Nov-10 15:25 Profile I think the Community Exchange Network is the first alternative monetory system that can be operated through the internet worldwide. The Network was started by Tim Jenkins of South Africa and it is functioning in 33 countries with 260 exchanges that are steadily growing. The network can be accessed at
    http://www.community-exchange.org.

    Community Exchange System
    Welcome to the Community Exchange System
    What is the CES? Who are we? How does the CES work? Two games of football An example of a trade Why we need a new money The advantages of the CES The problem with conventional money Questions and Answers Other articles Alternative money system links

    Caught in the money trap? Break free by joining the Community Exchange System


    With the impending implosion of the usury-based, global money system, now is the time to seek a new way of 'doing' money, one not based on debt and controlled by a global monetary elite that seems happy about destroying our planet in the pursuit of profit.

    Conventional money is created as debt by private financial institutions for their own profit-making purposes, not as a public service.

    This is the root cause of the economic, social and environmental problems that beset us. The amount of debt determines the quantity of money, which has nothing to do with the amount of money we need to live decent lives.


    CES money is 'created' by its users so it can never be in short supply. So long as you can offer something of value you can have from the community goods and services of like value.

    Join the growing community who have discovered a new way of 'doing' money, a healthy money that will create a healthy society.

    Public Domain Money

    CES money is public domain money. It is not 'owned' or controlled by anyone and as such belongs to the commons.

    It is 'created' by the traders who use it, not by a third party outside the circuit of buyers and sellers (banks) who do so for their own parasitic gain.

    When money is proprietary it confers the money power on those who 'create' and control it; when it is in the public domain the money power resides with its users, who can ensure that it is used for the public good.

    Recover the money power by starting
    a new CES exchange in your area.
    Let the community decide how its efforts will be deployed instead of faceless and unaccountable individuals who do so for their private gain at others' expense.

    Money and credit belong to the commons. Recapture these powerful forces for the common good.
    See how the site works View the Demonstration Site.
    This is the real thing but with fictitious users. The only features missing here are those relating to inter-exchange trading




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    Advantages of the Community Exchange System
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    Here are some of the advantages of the using the Community Exchange System


    • It provides another stream of income
    • It bridges the 'money gap' between the skills/offers/talents/gifts of sellers on the one hand and the wants/needs/requirements of buyers on the other. Conventional money usually can't bridge this gap because its supply is limited or non-existent.
    • It builds community
    • CES 'money' is abundant and can never be in short supply
    • CES 'money' can never be in oversupply and cause inflation
    • It is democratic: it returns 'money power' to the people
    • It allocates credit democratically
    • It eliminates usury. Its money is 'free' (i.e. interest free)
    • It keeps wealth where it is created
    • It eliminates cheating, theft and fraud (of money)
    • It provides a support network
    • It eliminates the problem of sellers not being paid for what they supply
    • It reconciles the accounts of buyers and sellers immediately
    • It promotes honesty because one can never 'run out of money'
    • It levels the playing field: everyone starts from zero and those who deliver real value to others are the ones who get 'rich', not those who deliver nothing but acquire their wealth by manipulating the currency
    • It gives local suppliers preference
    • It eliminates the waste of transporting goods from all over because its focus is local
    • It destroys the notion that the source of money is a job: the source of money is the delivery of value from one entity (person, company etc.) to another
    • It streamlines transactions and eliminates wasted effort (e.g. sending accounts, debt collecting)
    • It mobilizes the real wealth of a community: The knowledge and skills of its people is the real wealth of a community
    • It fosters self-reliance and self esteem
    • It fosters social justice and equality
    • And many, many more...




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    http://911wasahoax.blogspot.com/2006...n-and-are.html
    They lied to us


    Wednesday, August 23, 2006

    THE ROTHSCHILDS:

    THE TOP OF THE FOOD CHAIN AND ARE WE LUNCH?

    [THE FOOD CHAIN:, and plan for collapse of America, followed by Worldwide depression, collapse of all fiat currencies, followed by final transfer of all people's assets to the Rothschilds--from what is noted, all that happens must be viewed from a Rothschild point of view, and not Zionist, and not the Vatican, not chance or luck.
    The great events and seeming accidents of history are never accidents, but all are planned. The people who wish to confuse people with red herrings, want people to accept as truth that POTUS is the top position of power in the world, and it couldn't be further than the truth. ].

    The Rothschilds are not just bankers, but main players in the game of Risk and instigators of the wars, internal strife we have eperienced on two oceans and several seas.

    Consider the CONTROLLED conflicts since and including WWI--
    A Rothschild type of Controlled and prolonged conflicts that grow increasingly meaningless, Treasury-draining, demoralizing, are easily picked out Loaning to both sides, it is obvious that they don't want any short wars...... They wanted America into the war, so they loaded the Lusitania with munitions, and sunk it, neglecting to tell the passengers of the danger.

    The only Army worth considering,. the US, has been so weakened as to be useless. Most of the veterans of the Gulf Wars (1991) have either died or are on 100% disability from exposure to DU.

    In 2003-2006, Bush/Cheney deliberately prolonged the wars so as to kill off and/or disable most of the US Army, and soldiers, plus bring back DU to the soldier's families. Primarily Nat'l Guard, recruits, contractors were used.

    The Regular army soldier's were held back to safe positions in Europe are not sufficient in number, and far from home. Possibly Bush/Cheney's orders were to deliberately destroy as much of the US army as possible to prevent a military coup. through prolonging conflicts, and creating a no-man's land in Iraq, Afganistan.

    Israel pulls out of Lebanon unexpectedly with a poor explanation-- quick--possilbly to avoid loss of their army thru contact with their own DU-exploded bombs..

    Bush/Cheney and the Neocons think they'll get to call martial law, but it is entirely possible that Rothschilds have a surprise for them--they have a habit of dumping people they're done with.

    HOUSE OF ROTHSCHILD


    (possess most of the FIAT money of the world, cornering the market of gold while at the same time "dismissing" gold as an old relic of the past-wealth
    estimated at $200-700 TRILLION

    [this comes out to be most of the money of the world--while US debt at $6 TRILLION)

    With this limitless fund of money on the table, they can outraise anyone, make anything happen..
    Rest of Int'l banking families, i.e., Warburg, Rockefeller, Loeb., Schiff, etc....[get list later] Add Queen of England, called a "puppet"??? by a Rothschild.).

    "Nathan Mayer Rothschild, who, by 1820, had established a firm grip on the Bank of England stated:

    "I care not what puppet is placed upon the throne of England to rule the Empire on which the sun never sets. The man who controls Britain's money supply controls the British Empire, and I control the British money supply."

    [straight line between Rothschilds and Israel, that never seems short of money despite continous wars---, U.S. Neocons/Zionists--they are "Rothschild agents".]

    The Neo-con doctrines introduction
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJ8KpSczlNc
    Wolfowitz
    Cheney
    Bush
    Rumsfeld
    Chertov
    Dov Zacheim
    Sharon
    Perle
    Feith
    Netinyahu
    Perez--"America can't do anything without our approval."

    Other International industrialists,
    Key Members of U.S. Congress [unlimited campaign funds for Bush43 , Clinton elections]
    MI5, CIA, NAS, DofI, etc....
    Basic strategy for the Rothschilds: cause wars thru provocation, resulting in a crisis, loans at exhorbilnent interest [24-35%] both sides of the wars, then when they can't repay, they call in the loans and take possession, install central banks..

    After causing the Civil War, and Lincoln needing money, he refused the 24-35% interest demands of the Rothschilds, and orders the US to print it's own, money and cuts out the Rothschilds. It is believed that the Rothschilds arranged for Lincoln's assassination.

    Now to the plans for America.........Russian tsar was offered same crummy deal, which was refused--Rothschilds 100 years later got even with the mass murders of the entire family, including the children of the Romanov's---to serve as an example of what happens with one crosses the Rothschild family
    .
    Later that year, on April 14, President Lincoln is assassinated, less than two months before the end of the American Civil War.

    Following a brief training period in the Rothschilds London Bank, Jacob Schiff, a Rothschild, born in their house in Frankfurt, arrives in America at the age of 18, with instructions and the finance necessary to buy into a banking house there. The purpose of this was to carry out the following tasks.

    1. Gain control of America's money system through the establishment of a central bank. [DONE]

    2. Find desirable men, who for a price, would be willing to serve as stooges for the Illuminati and promote them into high places in the federal government, the Congress, Supreme Court, and all the federal agencies. [DONE]

    3. Create minority group strife throughout the nations, particularly targeting the whites and blacks.
    [DONE]

    4. Create a movement to destroy religion in the United States, with Christianity as the main target.
    [ZIONISTS court evangelical pastors to call themselves "Christian Zionists" and encourage the celebration of som
    e Jewish holidays for "Unity and Brotherhood"]
    THE MEDIA--PRESENT DAY

    CO-MASTERS OF THE WORLD- The Media"Eustice Mullins has published his research in his book Who Owns the TV Networks showing that the Rothschilds have control of all three U.S. Networks, plus other aspects of the recording and mass media industry.

    It can be added that they control Reuters too. From other sources it appears CNN, which began as an independent challenge to the Jewish Network monopoly, ran into repeated trickery, and ended up part of the system.

    Money from B.C.C.I., (B.C.C.I. has been one of the New World Orders financial systems for doing its dirty business such as controlling Congressmen, and is involved with INSLA, the Iran-Contra Scandal, Centrust, and other recent scandals) which has tainted so many aspects of public power in the U.S. has also been behind CNN.

    Perhaps nothing dominates the life of some Americans as does the television. Americans sit themselves before the television set and simply absorb what it projects to them.
    "On a day to day basis the biggest way the Rothschilds touch the lives of Americans are the three major networks which are under Rothschild direction"
    AN EXAMPLE OF REVENGE:

    "A Prussian official said that Rothschild had ‘an incredible influence upon all financial affairs here in London.
    It is widely stated ... that he entirely regulates the rate of exchange in the City. His power as a banker is enormous.’ ‘When Nathan ... (made] a fuss, the Bank of England trembled.’

    Once he tried to cash a check from his brother Amschel at the Bank, but the Bank refused saying it cashed only its own notes.
    Nathan’s volcano-like temper exploded. The next morning he and nine of his clerks arrived at the Bank and began exchanging bank notes for gold. In one day he had reduced the Bank’s gold reserves by a substantial amount.
    The next day he and his clerks arrived with more bank notes. A Bank executive nervously asked how long he intended to keep this up.
    Nathan replied something to the effect of
    ‘The Bank of England refused to take by bills, so I will not keep theirs.’
    A meeting was quickly called and they decided that from then on the Bank of England would be pleased to cash any Rothschild check.
    The Satanic Rothschilds Dynasty
    http://www.wealth4freedom.com/Rothschild.html

    The Media
    http://www.wealth4freedom.com/Rothschild2.html

    http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBr...Rothschild.htm




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    This is Part 1 of a lengthy video series.
    ( http://www.youtube.com/user/xSavant )
    is currently working on explaining the deceptive language that our governments & judicial systems use against us and how to deal with them. Take back the power that they have stolen from you since birth and finally claim true freedom. With great knowledge comes great responsibility. Good luck.

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    What Your Cell Phone Could Be Telling the Government

    What Your Cell Phone Could Be Telling the Government
    By Adam Cohen Wednesday, Sep. 15, 2010

    Smart phones do many things these days: surf the Internet, send e-mail, take photos and video (and — oh, yes — send and receive calls). But one thing they can do that phone companies don’t advertise is spy on you. As long as you don’t leave home without your phone, that handy gadget keeps a record of everywhere you go — a record the government can then get from your telephone company.


    The law is unclear about how easy it should be for the government to get its hands on this locational data — which can reveal whether you’ve been going to church, attending a Tea Party rally, spending the night at a date’s house or visiting a cancer-treatment center.

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    It’s nice that one of these news sites finally stepped up to the plate, but the RFID chips that many people carry around with them now, can also give off your location, and be used to track you.
    This is what targets are experiencing, but still kudos to a mainstream magazine for finally stepping up to the plate and pointing this stuff out.


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    What would you be willing to do if an authority figure asked you to? Most people are surprised at what others in society are willing to do if an authority figure asks them to. Many refuse to believe that complete strangers would harm an innocent person if an authority figure asked them to, but there has been example after example showing, that

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    The way how the Gangs talkers work, manipulating people to harm others, you can see how easy it is to deceive, poison, corrupt people into committing a crime against an innocent person, impersonating an authority figure. Legislation of new Laws against this Co-intelpro tactics that destroy lives, originated initially by FBI, we the people have to make it happen, in one way or another. The awakening is already happening....
    Many people wonder why these informants go along with this? Why would anyone go along with causing the suicide of their fellow citizens, or enacting cruelty on someones cats, dogs, kids, family, property etc?
    Why would you knowingly go along with a practice that many would consider to be evil?

    The answer is obedience to authority. As long as an authority figure is giving the orders, experiments have shown that most people will go along with whatever is being ordered, even if those orders are to inflict pain on another human being.

    Milgram experiment



    Let’s start with the Milgram experiment.
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    2:53
    The milgram experiment(Animated)[10SG]

    This is an animation is did for class. Social Psychology.
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mst1h31daV4

    This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by The Pennsylvania State University .
    Sorry about that.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment
    Ordinary people, simply doing their jobs, and without any particular hostility on their part, can become agents in a terrible destructive process. Moreover, even when the destructive effects of their work become patently clear, and they are asked to carry out actions incompatible with fundamental standards of morality, relatively few people have the resources needed to resist authority.[4]


    As part of the experiment a stranger off the street is asked to shock an individual as part of a learning or behaviour modification experiment.

    The person doing the shocking is told that this will help the person to learn the answers to the question. The person being shocked has agreed to the experiment.

    The person giving the shocks is giving a test shock of the lowest voltage to see what the pain is like. It’s not pleasant.
    They are told that if the person fails to answer the question, they are to increase the voltage and to keep shocking the person till they get the answer correct.

    The person giving the answers starts to get the questions wrong, they are asked to keep going by the person in authority. The person answering the questions, starts to scream out in pain, sometimes even screaming, my heart, my heart.

    Many times the person giving the shock wants to stop what they are doing, but they are told don’t pay it any mind we have to keep going, and so they are goaded on by the experimenter to the end of the experiment. 65% of those in the studied continued to the very end of the voltage metre.

    Now imagine you are an average citizen, you are asked to become an Informant by the state, country that you love. At some point you realise that what you are doing is wrong and that people are being harmed. Let’s say you come across a Gang Stalking website, and realise what you are taking part in.
    How can you stop?

    First you are bound by a gag order, so you can’t say anything. Second if you go to the police, local authorities, they are taking part, so you can’t go there, human rights organizations, the same thing.

    Since becoming an Informant you realise that this is systemic and that the majority of your community is in some way taking part. What do you do where do you turn?

    You can ask to not take part, but many people are afraid of being targeted themselves the same way, experiencing the same sort of harassment. There is a real cult like mentality about what is happening, even if most people do not identify it as such, so how would you get out, much less help the target?

    In many cases they can’t, and some of them are as trapped as we are. Either get the punishment or give the punishment. Not a great choice.
    This is not true for all of them, some are just really lowlifes and happy to go along with this, and would report anyone not following suit.

    Within the system you can try to hint to the target about what is happening, try to help expose what is happening.

    Don’t allow yourself to feel or become powerless, keep thinking, keep finding ways, try to keep feeling. If you let the stress of the situation overwhelm you, a part of you disassociates emotionally, and you became biddable, capable of not much but following orders.

    How quickly can this shift come about, in a really short space of time.
    The Milgram experiment happened within an hour or two.
    The next experiment happened over a few days. [/QUOTE

    The Stanford Prison Experiment

    http://www.prisonexp.org/
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment

    The scary part about this, is that thy knew in advance that they were part of an experiment, they were paid for it, they agreed to it and everything.

    The experiment was suppose to last 2 weeks, but had to be ended after six days. One group of students were assigned to the role of prisoners, another to the role of guards.
    Zimbardo shows how most evil comes from hierarchy




    As the experiment proceeded, several guards became progressively sadistic. Experimenters said that approximately one-third of the guards exhibited genuine sadistic tendencies. Interestingly, most of the guards were upset when the experiment concluded early.

    Zimbardo argued that the prisoner participants had internalized their roles, based on the fact that some had stated that they would accept parole even with the attached condition of forfeiting all of their experiment-participation pay.

    Yet, when their parole applications were all denied, none of the prisoner participants quit the experiment. Zimbardo argued they had no reason for continued participation in the experiment after having lost all monetary compensation, yet they did, because they had internalised the prisoner identity, they thought themselves prisoners, hence, they stayed.
    The prisoners (students pretending to be prisoners) started to riot, the cops (students pretending to be cops) started to get brutal with them. Made them do all sorts of sick and sadistic things.

    Tried to get some to turn into snitches, one prisoner faked being crazy to get out, they turned on each other in some cases, and just fell in line with obeying authority, in most cases. The person conducting the experiment actually thought he was a warden, he got so caught up in the role.

    In psychology, the results of the experiment are said to support situational attributions of behavior rather than dispositional attribution. In other words, it seemed the situation caused the participants’ behavior, rather than anything inherent in their individual personalities. In this way, it is compatible with the results of the also-famous Milgram experiment, in which ordinary people fulfilled orders to administer what appeared to be damaging electric shocks to a confederate of the experimenter.

    The experiment at the time was used to help better understand the psychological changes that prisoners and their jailers go through. Later it was used to help explain the situation at Abu Ghraib with the prisoner abuses.
    The Strip Search Prank Call

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strip_s...rank_call_scam

    This experiment was anything but. Because a crank caller pretended to be an authority figure. A Police officer, average people were willing to carry out horrible actions on innocent people.

    The strip search prank call scam was a series of incidents occurring for roughly a decade before 2004. These incidents involved a man calling a restaurant, claiming to be a police detective, and convincing managers to conduct strip-searches of female employees. Reports of over 70 such occurrences in 30 U.S. states finally led to the arrest and charging of David R. Stewart, a 37-year-old Florida corrections officer.
    These are a few of the incidents that occurred in the wake of these phone calls.
    A call to a McDonald’s restaurant in Hinesville, Georgia resulted in a janitor performing a body cavity search on a 19-year old cashier.[5]
    A 17-year-old customer at a Taco Bell in Phoenix, Arizona was strip-searched by a manager receiving this kind of prank call.

    [6]
    On Nov. 30, 2000, the caller persuaded the manager at a McDonald’s in Leitchfield, Kentucky, to remove her own clothes in front of a customer whom the caller said was suspected of sex offenses. The caller promised that undercover officers would burst in and arrest the customer the moment he attempted to molest her, said Detective Lt.

    Gary Troutman of the Leitchfield Police Department.
    [7]
    On May 29, 2002, a girl celebrating her 18th birthday — in her first hour of her first day on the job at the McDonald’s in Roosevelt, Iowa — was forced to strip, jog naked and assume a series of embarrassing poses, all at the direction of a caller on the phone, according to court and news accounts.
    [8]
    On Jan. 26, 2003, according a police report in Davenport, Iowa, an assistant manager at an Applebee’s Neighborhood Grill & Bar conducted a degrading 90-minute search of a waitress at the behest of a caller who said he was a regional manager — even though the man had called collect, and despite the fact the assistant manager had read a company memo warning about hoax calls just a month earlier. He later told police he’d forgotten about the memo.[9]
    The callers downfall came when he was able to get one of these sheeple to sexually assault a teenage girl over the phone. All the while giving the instructions. She complied, because she was scared, frightened and an authority figure was on the phone giving instructions.
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    The final prank call in this scheme was made to a McDonald’s restaurant in Mount Washington, Kentucky on April 9, 2004. According to assistant manager Donna Summers, the caller identified himself as a policeman, ‘Officer Scott’, he described an employee whom he said was suspected of stealing a customer’s purse.

    Summers called 18-year-old employee Louise Ogborn to her office and told her of the suspicion. Following the instructions of the caller, Summers ordered Ogborn first to empty her pockets, and finally to remove all her clothing except for an apron, in an effort to find the stolen items.

    Again following the caller’s instructions, Summers had another employee watch Ogborn when she had to leave the office to check the restaurant. The first employee, 27 year old Jason Bradley, whom she asked to stay there refused to after he was on the phone with the caller, so she phoned her fiance Walter Nix, asking him to come in to ‘help’ with the situation.
    [10]
    According to Ogborn, after Summers passed off the phone to Nix, he continued to do as the caller told, even as the caller’s requests became progressively more bizarre.

    A security camera recorded Nix forcing Ogborn to remove her apron, the only article of clothing she was still wearing, and to assume degrading positions, such as standing on a chair and getting on all fours.

    When Ogborn refused to obey the caller’s instructions, Nix hits the 90 lb Ogborn on the buttocks several times creating painful red welts, and at one point he does this for 10 minutes.
    At the caller’s request, Nix then threatens to beat Ogborn again and forces Ogborn to kiss him and then perform oral sex on him. Ogborn says at the point of sexual assault she was scarred for life.
    [11]
    The tape showed that Summers re-entered the office several times and dismissed Ogborn’s pleas for help, a statement which Summers denies.
    When another employee was asked to take part and objected, Summers decided to call the store manager, whom the caller claimed to have on another phone line.

    She then discovered that the store manager had not spoken to any police officers, and that the call had been a hoax. A quick-thinking employee dialed *69 to determine that the caller had called from a supermarket pay phone in Panama City, Florida. Summers then called police, who arrested Nix and began an investigation to find the caller.

    The above scenario is really sick and hard to believe that something like that could happen, mush less that similar circumstances happened at least 70 times prior to this incident, but it’s true.
    Other events show us that people are willing to kill upon request, even innocent woman, children and the elderly, while others are not.
    the My Lai






    the My Lai massacre where the US army in Vietnam slaughtered 500 unarmed civilians, many women and children.
    Some victims were sexually abused, beaten, tortured, maimed and mutilated.

    Three U.S. servicemen who made an effort to halt the massacre and protect the wounded were sharply criticized by US Congressmen, received hate mail, death threats and mutilated animals on their doorsteps.

    Only 30 years after the event were their efforts honored.
    American media first claimed 100 had been killed in a fierce fire fight.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai_Massacre
    Charlie Company landed following a short artillery and helicopter gunship preparation. The soldiers found no enemy fighters in the village on the morning of March 16.

    Many suspected there were NLF troops in the village, hiding underground in the homes of their elderly parents or their wives. The U.S. soldiers, one platoon of which was led by Second Lieutenant William Calley, went in shooting at “suspected enemy position”.

    After the first civilians were killed and wounded by the indiscriminate fire, the soldiers soon began attacking anything that moved, humans and animals alike, with firearms, grenades and bayonets.

    The scale of the massacre only spiraled as it progressed, the brutality increasing with each killing. BBC News described the scene:
    “ Soldiers went berserk, gunning down unarmed men, women, children and babies. Families which huddled together for safety in huts or bunkers were shown no mercy.

    Those who emerged with hands held high were murdered. … Elsewhere in the village, other atrocities were in progress. Women were gang raped; Vietnamese who had bowed to greet the Americans were beaten with fists and tortured, clubbed with rifle butts and stabbed with bayonets.

    Some victims were mutilated with the signature “C Company” carved into the chest. By late morning word had got back to higher authorities and a cease-fire was ordered. My Lai was in a state of carnage. Bodies were strewn through the village.
    [12] ”
    More victims at My Lai. Photo by Ronald L. HaeberleDozens of people were herded into an irrigation ditch and other locations and killed with automatic weapons
    [13]
    . A large group of about 70 to 80 villagers, rounded up by the 1st Platoon in the center of the village, were killed personally by Calley and by soldiers he had ordered to fire. Calley also shot two other large groups of civilians with a weapon taken from a soldier who had refused to do any further killing.

    Members of the 2nd Platoon killed at least 60-70 Vietnamese men, women, and children, as they swept through the northern half of My Lai 4 and through Binh Tay, a small subhamlet about 400 meters north of My Lai 4.
    [1]
    After the initial “sweeps” by the 1st and the 2nd Platoons, the 3rd Platoon was dispatched to deal with any “remaining resistance”.

    They immediately began killing every still-living human and animal they could find, including shooting the Vietnamese who emerged from their hiding places, and finishing off the wounded found moaning in the heaps of bodies. The 3rd Platoon also rounded up and killed a group of 7 to 12 women and children.
    [1]
    Since Charlie Company had encountered no enemy opposition, 4th Battalion, 3rd Infantry Regiment, was moved into its landing zone between and attacked the subhamlet of My Khe 4, killing as many as 90 people.

    U.S. forces lost one man killed and seven wounded from mines and booby traps.
    [1] During the next two days, both battalions were involved in additional burning and destruction of dwellings, and in the mistreatment of Vietnamese detainees.

    Most of the soldiers had not participated in the crimes, but neither did they protest or complain to their superiors.
    [14]
    At the end of the day what can really be said about these incidents are occurrences?
    Why are some people driven by a higher authority, a greater code of conduct than others?

    Why are some not willing to go along with this, when others just fall in line, or stand helplessly by and let these atrocities happen?

    Why do some decline to become Informants for the system while others just accept? Why do some just go along with injustice and corruption, while others turn away from all appearances of evil?

    Why do some question, while others don’t?

    There are a variety of reasons, many people are culturally engineered or programed to obey authority, many have never been in a similar situation before and their survival instinct is to comply, because everyone else is going along with it.

    Humans for the most part are social creatures and very few have the capacity to stand on their own, or be excluded from society, friends, family, neighbours and if the corruption, or atrocity is systemic, most will just fall in line with what is happening, just like in Nazi Germany.

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